Lost 5X06: Hello Lamp post, whatcha knowin’?

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Let’s get this out of the way. I missed the original airing of 316 tonight and am playing catch-up like the little tomato in Mia Wallace’s joke. To get tonight’s column done in the most expeditious way possible, it’s another “real time diary.” I hear this week’s show is a doozy, so let’s get on with it.

00:01 – Hmmm. this looks familiar.

00:03 – Jack diving in headfirst to save someone without thinking or checking things out. How apropos.

00:04 – She does love lighting those candles.

00:05 – A Dharma station?

00:10 – “Is he telling the truth?” “Probably not.”

00:11 – Could the Lamp post be built over the Hellmouth?

00:12 – So who built the pendulum? Widmore? Faraday?

00:13 – “Desmond just pawn in game of life.”

00:20 – John Locke’s what?

00:21 – if the original flight resurrected Christian Shepherd, will this flight do the same for Locke?

00:23 – Ben discussing biblical literature. Odd.

00:24 – Ben tying up loose ends = trouble

00:26 – I admit I don’t remember this guy. I’m sure he’s been in an episode before.

00:29 – So, does Aaron need to go back too? Or not?

00:34 – Make-up sex?

00:35 – He’s not sure how she takes her coffee? How long have they been broken up?

00:37 – What has Ben done now?

00:39 – You probably should have read that note, Jack.

00:44 – Guess this guy will be important.

00:45 – I bet BKV took some ribbing over that product placement.

00:46 – Good old Hurley. Looking out for everyone.

00:47 – Charlie’s guitar maybe?

00:48 – “Who cares?” Ben is such an amazingly great heel.

00:49 – I’m surprised they are not in their original seats. Or are they?

00:51 – Lepidus?

00:52 – “we’re not going to Guam, are we?”

00:56 – Are you prepared to spend the day reading about the importance of Ulysses to the LOST mythos?

00:59 – So, was there a plane crash? Or just island mumbo jumbo? I guess we’ll see eventually. We saw wreckage from the crash, correct? Or just a water bottle?

1:02 – Jin? but when?

Is everyone now stuck in the 1970s? It would make for a great cross-over with LIFE ON MARS (preferably the British version. Who wouldn’t want to see Gene Hunt kick Ben’s ass?)

Next week: This is your death, John Locke.

Comments

  1. Is DC a Spanish-only company in the Lostverse? Hurley’s copy of Y: El Ultimo Hombre made me applaud. Y was my favorite comic.

    I’m curious about the characters played by Zuleikha Robinson and Said Taghmaoui, whom I remember as the torturer from one of my favorite flicks, Three Kings.

    “Who wouldn’t want to see Gene Hunt kick Ben’s ass?”

    The best part would be Original Flavor Gene Hunt calling Ben a tosser.

  2. Dave Hackett says:

    I wasn’t feeling this episode at all. Despite being the episode where the most happened in a while, it felt very mechanical, like they said “OK lets move everything into place so X, Y and Z can happen over the next few episodes”. There were some things in this episode that really should have had more impact than they did.

  3. Yeah, I have to think that’s Charlie’s guitar. I’m betting that Ghost Charlie is the one that convinced Hurley to go back to the island and he asked Hurley to bring the guitar with him.

    And yes, it would be brilliant to see the Gene Genie give Ben a sucker punch to the bollocks. If Ben has his favorite collapsible baton with him, it might almost be a fair fight.

  4. Are we supposed to think that Kate killed Aaron? And that Jack slept with her KNOWING that she did! I know Jack is often probe to stupidity since season 2, but this seemed extra questionable. If Kate gave Aaron to the Australian Granny you’d think she’d be able to say so to Jack. Instead she was all cryptic (even more than usual!) which makes you think the worst.

    Kate: Don’t ever ask what horrible thing I did to that child. Now come over here and make love to me!

    Jack: He ain’t my kid! Let’s get it on!

    –That’s how that whole scene read to me. DARK!!!

  5. The episode left me high and dry. An airplane that does not crash! So many holes in this one.

  6. I vote for the ‘Gene Genie’ kickin’ Ben’s butt bigtime!

  7. Chris says:

    “00:24 – Ben typing up loose ends = trouble” — I think you mean “tying” though Ben typing probably means trouble too.

    I think it’s safe to assume that the pre-flight back stories for Kate, Sayid, Hurley and Ben will be fodder for future character-centric episodes.

    With Kate, somebody obviously kidnap or is threatening Aaron to force Kate to go on the flight.

    I’m guessing Ben’s story has something to do with Desmond and Penny and his threat to kill Penny.

    I’m curious who else was transported to the Island besides the Oceanic Six – Lepidus? The agent accompanying Sayid? The other airline passenger in business/first class? The flight attendents. Does one have to be previously on the Island? All questions which I’m hoping they’ll answer.

  8. Tommy Raiko says:

    “Are we supposed to think that Kate killed Aaron? And that Jack slept with her KNOWING that she did!”

    Well, it seems we’re certainly not supposed to think that her killing Aaron is out of the question, but it’s certainly a mystery. Maybe she left Aaron with Sawyer’s baby-momma: that might explain why she’s so insistent that Jack not press the subject, since her off-island on-behalf-of-Sawyer activities (whatever they were) precipitated all sorts of badness between Jack and Kate.

    But Sun has a kid, too. What did she do with her daughter? Maybe Kate left Aaron with some going-to-the-island daycare that Sun had set up.

    Thinking about it, what I really liked about this episode is how it in addition to advancing the plot from point A to point B pretty well (which isn’t trivial; lots of other shows have from time to time been really slow or boring in moving their plots forward) it also planted a few new mysteries for us to obsess over:

    - Where’s Aaron?
    - How did Sayyid come to be on the flight?
    - Who beat up Ben?
    - How did Hurley come to be on the flight (especially if it wasn’t Ben)?

    In addition to all the “normal” LOST-mysteries that this episode brings up (What happened to the plane? What/when are the isalnd returnees now? What’s up with Jin? What’s going to happen with Desmond?) these particular new “mini-mysteries” seem to be exactly the kind that can be solved comparatively quickly in future flashback/flashforward episodes, which, I admit, really hooks me for watching future episodes!

  9. My guess is that Ben’s “tying up loose ends” was the attempted or successful killing of Penny. There by avenging Widmore’s killing of “his” daughter Alex by killing his.

    That’s why Ben was at the pier.

    Or is that what the show’s creators want us to think.

    I’m looking forward to the John Locke episode next week.

  10. Am I the only one not feeling the Bryan K. Vaughn episodes? Did he write this one as well? The last few episodes this season have felt “odd” to me. Last nights had a LOT of coincidences in it. I mean, the whole Granddad thing, JUST to get his father’s shoes? He just happened to have them in his suitcase cause he packed quickly? Doesn’t Jack own anything of his fathers? Or was I missing something to say there was more going on there then just “get shoes, have item for John.” And The pilot? Hurley buying up all the seats on the plane so people wouldn’t die (but then having lots of people in the back anyway?) Jin not recognizing his friends until they called his name? I don’t know. Didn’t do it for me. I for one thought the whole Ben thing had something to do with Aaron, and Kate. Since Ben said he had to go tie up a loose end, and then suddenly Kate is without Aaron; and is crying, and Ben said he was the one going after Aaron. BUT I’m probably totally wrong there, since he was all covered in blood. I hope Penny isn’t dead though! But hopefully next week will be good, since they finally reveal the whole point of the island! (Or so they say?) Do you think Christian is really alive? I’m not sure. My reasoning is, when he was telling Locke what he needed to do last week, he wouldn’t help Locke up when he asked. It’s almost like he’s some illusion, or a ghost, or something, and can give commentary, but can’t actually “do anything” cause uh, he’s not really there?

  11. Tommy,
    Sun’s kid is being cared for by Sun’s mom back in Korea. When Sun starts to go kill Ben at the marina Mrs. Paik phones Sun and gets Ji Yeon to talk to her mom, probably to guilt Sun into coming back sooner.

    I tend to think Richard’s right; that Ben was wounded when he tried (perhaps successfully) to kill Penny; that’s why Ben makes reference to fulfilling a promise to an old friend (or words to that effect), which means his promise to Widmore that he Ben would kill Widmore’s daughter.

    There is a certain stilted qualify about this season, probably because the writers are desperately trying to squeeze in all the plot points they need to cover in this season and the next.

  12. The Beat says:

    In the last episode Jin said that “I’ve founda new playmate for you,” toJi Yeon meaning Aaron…maybe the two moms cooked up something.

    Did Ben tell Jack that they would never be coming back?

  13. I think Ben did say that.

    I think that though Sun was nerving herself up to kill Ben (though her motives for blaming Ben for Jin’s death are fuzzy), she forced herself into mommy-mode and tried to soothe Ji Yeon with talk of a playmate.

    Probably something will come of it down the line, tho none of us will really catch on in time (pun intended).

  14. john layman says:

    It’s SO obvious! Jack’s granddad is Old Sawyer.

  15. All I know is, if Ben Linus kills Penny Widmore, Desmond Hume is going to go all Laura Roslin on Ben’s ass.

    (How’s that for a sci fi geek cross-reference?)

  16. “Am I the only one not feeling the Bryan K. Vaughn episodes? Did he write this one as well?”

    He was listed as Producer but not one of the two writers, so I’m not sure how much control he had on the story.

    “Doesn’t Jack own anything of his fathers? ”

    I was always under the impression that Jack has had nothing to do with his father for so long that he probably wouldn’t have anything to remind him of his dad.

    “And The pilot? Hurley buying up all the seats on the plane so people wouldn’t die (but then having lots of people in the back anyway?)”

    Yeah, that confused me as well. I see the new character was sitting up in first class along with the female officer (FBI?) with Sayid

    “I hope Penny isn’t dead though!”

    I hope so to but I can just as easily see her dying so that the only happy relationship in the show would be ruined. I recall a lot of viewers getting surprised that the writers had happily tied up the Penny/Desmond story last year and this could be a way of them saying; “uh, wait-a-minute…”

    Also, Penny’s death would probably be the only way to get Desmond back to the island.

  17. Nathan,
    Jack regarded the idea of giving something of his Dad’s to “dead” Locke as absurd. The incident with his grandfather and the shoes seemed to be the universe insisting that Jack comply.

  18. Here’s what I think:

    Ben went to the marina to kill Penny, and was confronted by Desmond and/or Widmore (now in L.A.; why not? He wants to protect his daughter). Penny may or may not be dead.

    Hurley was “visited” by either Charlie or Libby.

    Sayid was “visited” by Shannon, went ballistic, and wound up in the hands of a U.S. Marshall.

    Kate was “visited” by Claire; gave up Aaron to Claire’s mom.

    Aaron not being on the plane causes “unpredictable” things to happen, according to Eliose (who is the Ella on the island seen back in 1954).

    Miles is Marvin Candle’s son (has nothing to do with last night’s episode, but I want to throw that out there).

    Rousseau got a bum deal.

  19. I think the only new characters will be those in contact with the Oceanic Six when the time flash occurred, which puts them on the island without the plane or other passengers. The pilot might be with them too because of his previous contact with the island, and the person guarding Sayid.

    Now they’re all back during the Darma era. Jin might have been there for some time. (I didn’t see him as hesitating to recognize his old friends. He just seemed surprised to see them.)

    If the other Islanders stopped shifting through time when Locke fixed the lever, they all might have had to infiltrate and adapt.

  20. Mark Coale says:

    Last night’s episode was written by Lindelof and Cruise. I assumed it was meant as an in-joke for BKV. I wouldn’t think he would put his own book in a scene.

    Gotta fear for those kids. Aaron is MIA, Sun’s daughter we guess is okay, and what about little Charlie? If Ben killed Penny, what’s to say he wouldn’t have killed her son too?

  21. seth hurley says:

    I was under the impression that Hurley bought up the remaining 78 seats on the plane, not all of them.

    They had less than 48 hours to buy tickets & get to the time travel window. I would assume that the other passengers would have made travel plans a little sooner than 2 days earlier.

    Are there that many people making last minute trips to Guam?

  22. “Am I the only one not feeling the Bryan K. Vaughn episodes?”

    Probably yes. I thought “Confirmed Dead,” which introduced the freighties, and “The Shape of Things to Come” were among the high points of season four.

    I hope the island’s (permanent?) stopover in the ’70s finally explains that damn four-toed statue.

  23. William Sims says:

    In an earlier episode Sawyer and the gang found Ajira Air marked wreakage/supplies on the beach, so either the plane crashed, or someone loaded up their pockets with peanuts from the flight.

  24. I don’t think the time-hoppers are in the 1970s. I think they have blended in with the Dharma Initiative sometime in the mid-1980s. Locke moving the ancient wheel back on its axis and/or the Oceanic 5 on their way back to the island has “calmed” the time-shifting down, allowing the time-hoppers to be in one period for a longer sequence of time. Since Charlotte was born in 1979, and she claims to have seen “wild man” Faraday when she was a little girl on the island, I place the time-hoppers circa 1985.

    I think this season has been outstanding because there are enough clues out there now that you can conceivably solve everything, and yet still have a gazillion questions on the brain burner.

  25. Joe L. says:

    Seth Hurley hit it on the head. Hurley bought the remaining tickets on the flight, which just happened to be 78 tickets. Not that crazy that the flight would have had many passengers booked in advance and thus their seats already sold and out of Hurley’s saving hands.

    I am assuming Sayyid turned himself in for the murder Hurley was being held for, thus Hurley was released and Sayyid was arrested. Perhaps he was being transported home via this flight, as Kate was via the original flight. It is a kinda-sorta reaching explaination, but it makes sense for the most part.

    The pilot, if you recall, was supposed to be the pilot of the plane that got them all there the first time. It definitely wasn’t just irony that he was flying this plane.

    My girlfriend thinks that with Jin being dressed as a Dharma member that the “original others” will end up consisting of all the original flight survivors. I’m not so sure, but it could be. If the time traveling has stopped, they definitely aren’t in the 2000′s, so it is possible.

  26. seth hurley says:

    @Jim Aquino- with the time travel in play, they could now jump back far enough to see the landing of The Black Rock, the heyday of the Four-Toed Statue builders & their Smokey-protected temple, or the origin of the skeleton couple from Season 1.

    @William Sims- Sawyer & the gang jumped ahead +3 years after the return of the O6 to find the wreckage & canoes. So did the O6 group take shots at them on the water & which one did Juliet shoot at and hit?

  27. Steve Taylor says:

    Does this relate to comics because of Bryan K. Vaughan,…or is this another baseball thing. It’s like you’re speaking Greek.

  28. Christian Shepard isn’t alive. At least, we aren’t led to believe he is. There is evidence in the episode where Locke moves the wheel. Christian says he cannot help Locke move it- probably because he’s a ghost.

    I definitely think that Ben’s “unfinished business” involved Penny Widmore and his “old friend” is Charles. I don’t know who, but whoever got in his way gave Ben a beating. I wonder if he was successful, though.

    I don’t get the flash causing everyone to just drop onto the island. This definitely isn’t the same set of circumstances that brought the Oceanic flight to the island.

    BTW, with flashes still happening, does that mean that some of the people stuck in time have died from the effects?

  29. I don’t think (hope) that Ben killed Penny. I think we may suspect that, and that perhaps Ben got himself in trouble with Widmore’s people, but Ben’s obviously thinking about his mom (my mother taught me) so seeing Des and Penny with their son would make it too difficult for him to kill her, he hesitates, and then the mercenaries get the jump on him.

    Of course, Ben killed all the mercenaries while Penny and Des got away, but that will be a good fight to watch. Even though this wasn’t a Ben episode, Ben stole this episode just by reading Ulysses on the plane. I wonder if he’d lost his copy years ago on the island, and made a special point of buying it to take back to the island.

    I predict Sayid will have to kill that other guy on the plane. He’s the wolverine of the Lost-verse.

    And Lost is comics related because like those comics many people consider to be the best (Sandman, Watchmen, American Flagg, Bone), Lost is a rich, layered character driven story told over a long serial span that incorporates speculative and fantastic elements and told in a tightly woven allegory utilizing nearly every tool of literature and film to create an intricate, compelling, and highly entertaining story.

  30. Another theory bouncing around the net is that Jack got Kate pregnant, so she’s essentially filling in for claire and the unborn Aaron.

  31. Mark Coale says:

    True.

    they certainly made it fairly clear they had sex before getting on the plane.

    I wonder how many other things we’ll find out later:

    someone in a wheelchair?
    a dentist? high school science teacher?
    one of the other stars of Expose?

  32. Hope somebody remembered to bring a dog.

  33. I absolutely believe that Kate is now pregnant. Sayid is playing the fugitive role, Hurley is playing the musician, and Kate is now the pregnant woman.

    Has Jack’s role now changed? Is he the believer in place of Locke?

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