Sunfire, Wasp, and Wonder Man join the Uncanny Avengers

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Marvel is holding one of the press conferences to cover UNCANNY AVENGERS this afternoon, and although neither The Beat nor Sterling Steve Morris could be on the call, we have posted the image that accompanied it. Sunfire, the original new X-Man from Japan, the Wasp, and Wonder Man have joined the team. According to CBR’s live blog, artist Olivier Coipel will fill in on issue #5, to give regular artist John Cassaday some breathing room.

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  1. Shawn Hill says:

    How little I expected a generous parting gift from Bendis on his way out: the return of the Wasp, in a way that almost made sense!

  2. How is Marvel gonna pretend that they didn’t know Cassaday would be slow?

  3. SniktSnakt says:

    I’m surprised that Cassaday was able to get 4 monthly issues out in a row, that’s a miracle right there…

  4. What are the 4 monthly issues? Issue 2 is already late.

  5. Comic book characters join a comic book team. Why is this news?

  6. Sunfire had to get out of Japan before their national debt goes ka-boom.

  7. Rob J. says:

    In order for John Cassaday to catch up, Coipel’s going to have to fill-in on waaaaaay more than just issue #5. Like, issues #6 through 58. And then they’re going to have to downgrade UA to quarterly when Cassaday comes back.

  8. Mesektet says:

    Sunfire back in his old costume, why does Remender keep doing that?

  9. Christopher says:

    Because that costume is awesome! So happy to see Sunfire get some love.

  10. SniktSnakt says:

    Since the team is equal number of Avengers to X-Men characters, shouldn’t the X-Men have one more member to add?

  11. Charles says:

    Uncanny Avengers #2 is still solicited for this month and will come out week after the next.

    The delay is only a two week and lots of books from Green Lantern to Justice League have experienced it. I’m not justifying it but I really don’t know where this talk of the book being delayed for months on end is coming from.

    It’s like people are just looking for things to complain about.

  12. two weeks late is still late. Especially for a goddamn reboot, where they are trying to attract new readers. I’m an existing fan, I know to come here for news and I know that a book being late doesn’t mean that it didn’t just disappear. New fans don’t.

  13. i’m diggin’ the additions to the team. i’m thinking maybe the creators are looking at the ratio for members as mutant vs. non-mutant , in which case the mutants outnumber the non-mutants five to four. or if the ratio is avengers vs. x-men, wolverine has been a member of both teams, so which column is he being counted in: x-men or avengers? bendis (among other writers) for the last couple of years has been returning the avengers to their status quo of before he took over the book (bringing back the vision, hawkeye, getting rid of the sentry, etc). sounds good to me. one last thought. now that wonder man and the scarlet witch are on the same team again, how long before sparks fly between the two and they become an item. then how long after that does wolverine starts hitting on wanda (’cause he’s always hitting on someone’s girlfriend), and how will the vision react to all this? i’m looking forward to reading this book for many issues to come.

  14. >> Comic book characters join a comic book team. Why is this news? >>

    It’s a comic book news site.

    Have we really reached the point where what happens IN the books is not only unimportant, it’s something to be hostile to? “Tell us about the renumberings, but for god’s sake, why would we care about the story?!”

  15. Synsidar says:

    one last thought. now that wonder man and the scarlet witch are on the same team again, how long before sparks fly between the two and they become an item.

    According to another report on Marvel’s presentation, that’s specifically why Remender is bringing Wonder Man into the series. Remender referred to Busiek’s AVENGERS run during the call. Is deliberately recycling old plot material good or bad?

    I thought the Scarlet Witch-Wonder Man stuff was a mistake, because it was themeless writing, but as you might recall, Bendis was strongly hinting (AVENGERS annuals) that the reincarnated Wonder Man was just a product of the Witch’s reality-altering power. If the idea that the Witch’s “base” power was reality alteration has been scrapped, has the idea that Wonder Man is a construct been scrapped along with it?

    SRS

  16. ikaras says:

    I haven’t been in too many fights, but why is Cap wearing kneepads? Is the first story about them fighting dwarves?

  17. @synsidar – i don’t see the whole scarlet witch/ wonder man/ vision plotline as “recycling old plot material” , but rather finally getting to some unfinished business that needs to be taken care of. when bendis disassembled the avengers, there were quite a few lingering plotlines hanging around. one of them being the scarlet witch/ wonder man/ vision triangle. should be interesting to see who ends up with wanda and the road they all took to get there, but then again it may be what you suggested: wonder man is a figment of wanda’s powers. with those powers gone (courtesy of returning the avengers to pre-bendis status quo) who knows how long simon will last.
    with the wasp on the team, another interesting aspect of the book could be her relationship with hank pym. will they get back together or will hank stick with tigra and will the wasp end up with someone else? will any of this even come up in the book? i hope so. call me old fashioned (you’re OLD FASHIONED!!!) but i dig the whole soap opera aspect of these books (something busiek did with great zeal on his run of the avengers. his and perez’s run on the avengers is still one of my favorites to this day) and i would like to see them delve a little deeper into those kinds of plots again.

  18. Charles says:

    @Kurt-I think it’s a sign that a lot of people complaining about stuff outside what’s in the books have probably outgrown Marvel comics. While I don’t have any problem with that I am however bewildered why people take their time to comment on something they have no interest in. I think such energy will be better spent supporting what you like. If one reads a comic and wants to interact with the community, you’d be surprised that what you find is mostly people who confuse cynicism with intelligence and have some blind loyalty to Marvel or DC or even Image and bad mouth one of the big two at every turn.

    @abc- I agree. I loved what Kurt Busiek did with the Wonder man and Scarlet Witch relationship and the drama in the book was very interesting. Remender has said that he will go into the relationships between the characters and this was something that he did very well during his time on Uncanny X-force. I am really looking forward to what Remender has planned.

  19. Synsidar says:

    when bendis disassembled the avengers, there were quite a few lingering plotlines hanging around. one of them being the scarlet witch/ wonder man/ vision triangle. should be interesting to see who ends up with wanda and the road they all took to get there,

    Thematically, there was nothing there in the triangle. That wasn’t development; it was soap opera filler. In a soap opera, you can take any two warm bodies and have them get romantically involved for a while, because the viewers don’t care how well they fit together. Lust is better than love.

    From the thematic and aesthetic standpoints, the only Scarlet Witch storylines that work well from the ’70s on are her relationship with the Vision, learning and practicing witchcraft, and looking for her parents. Everything else is themeless writing or manipulation.

    If all of her storylines are considered equally valid, there’s no way to make sense of the Witch as a character because you have retcons of retcons and other nonsense. The only way to fix her, at this point, might be to jump ahead years and have her life changed. Currently, she’s hardly anything more than a power with a body attached. It’s probably just a matter of time before a writer decides to have her go insane again, or have her power manipulated to do something wacky. That’s the problem with writing power fantasies. They attract readers who couldn’t care less whether a story works aesthetically; they want to fantasize about how awesome it would be to use a power or to have the hero’s love interest as a girlfriend.

    SRS

  20. MBunge says:

    “I think it’s a sign that a lot of people complaining about stuff outside what’s in the books have probably outgrown Marvel comics.”

    Since Marvel now clearly aims its books at a theoretically adult audience, what does it mean to “outgrow” them?

    Mike

  21. SniktSnakt says:

    How about giving Rogue an attempt at a relationship w/one of the Avengers? IIRC in her first appearance in Avengers Annual #10 she tried to absorb Wonder Man’s powers but couldn’t. He wasn’t even knocked unconscious by her touch. Maybe those two can get together??!

  22. Synsidar, does everything in a comic have to be thematic to work? We’ve followed these characters for 40+ years, surely some of the stuff we are seeing is them just living their lives. I’ve no problem with Scarlet Witch having a relationship with whoever, it’s slice of life stuff that can have a place in comics.

  23. >> I think it’s a sign that a lot of people complaining about stuff outside what’s in the books have probably outgrown Marvel comics. >>

    That would only cycle back to “It’s a comic book news site that covers, among other things, Marvel Comics.”

    >> I am however bewildered why people take their time to comment on something they have no interest in. >>

    Or who object to a news site about that thing covering what it sets out to cover, yeah.

    Glad you liked what we did with Wanda and Simon — I thought it kind of fizzled at the end, because we didn’t get to explore it further after the Kang War, but I’m interested to see what Rick will do with it.

  24. Synsidar says:

    Synsidar, does everything in a comic have to be thematic to work? We’ve followed these characters for 40+ years, surely some of the stuff we are seeing is them just living their lives.

    A theme makes the story about something. Whether the writer is saying something about himself, or about life, or making a philosophical point, the theme gives the reader something to think about after he’s finished reading the story and enables a reader to connect stories with divergent plots and characters. A themeless story is shallow; if there’s no suspense–will the heroic scientist save the Earth from being destroyed?–there’s nothing to focus on except, perhaps, special effects and fantasizing about being the hero.

    And in the case of themeless superhero comics stories, a person doesn’t miss anything by not reading them. Development of characters is creative writing; an illusion of change story, or a series of them, is equivalent to a bunch of dream sequences. If a writer who develops characters takes one over again, it’s like seeing the lead character suddenly wake up and find himself back in the real world. He has a life to live.

    SRS

  25. MBunge says:

    “A themeless story is shallow”

    Even if that is true…so what? Someone who never consumes shallow entertainment is probably as bad off as someone who only consumes the stuff.

    Mike

  26. Mbunge asks:

    “Since Marvel now clearly aims its books at a theoretically adult audience, what does it mean to “outgrow” them?”

    It just means that some people define “adult” in a restrictive manner.

  27. Shawn Kane says:

    >> Comic book characters join a comic book team. Why is this news? >>

    I just took it as a cynical view of comic book new when it’s about a comic from those Evil Corporate Disney Owned Monsters Marvel. Or someone who likes DC better ;)

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