The Oatmeal Lawsuit Part II — Let's Sue the American Cancer Society

By Todd Allen


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Last week, we told you about the webcomic, The Oatmeal getting sued for defamation and The Oatmeal’s hilarious response.  I was also wondering what the response of the lawyer filing the suit was going to be.  He’s suing the American Cancer Society and the National Wildlife Federation.  Oh, yes.  This just got even stranger and it’s making some waves in legal circles.

If you venture into the legal blogosphere (or “blawgs,” as they call them in legal circles) a couple of the big ones are Popehat and Lowering The Bar.  Lowering the Bar could probably be described as educating about the law through the ridicule of fools.  Popehat is a bit more serious, but still very irreverent and definitely concerned with issues of free speech.  Both of these blogs have been all over the Oatmeal Incident like cheese on a Packer fan’s head.

Taking this chronologically, first Popehat stomps all over the claim against The Oatmeal:

It’s not going to go well for FunnyJunk. Even if the threat letter wasn’t simply stagecraft — a big assumption — they’re going to get curb-stomped in court, whether in initial motion practice or in a proctological discovery campaign waged by free-speech-supporting pro-bono lawyers (let’s just say I’m not the only one offering to help). Their lawyer has just given himself +eleventy in “censorious twatwaffle” on Klout, and the Streisand Effect is looming.

Go ahead and click on that link.  Not only do you get a prominent First Amendment lawyer vouching for the lawyer in question, you also get litigious Ewoks.  No, I’m serious.  Litigious Ewoks.

Next, Popehat has a sort of “the shoe’s on the other foot” post about said lawyer being able to dish it, but not take it.

If this were an 80-year-old probate lawyer, I could write this off as culture shock. But in a self-described “internet lawyer,” this failure to anticipate the natural and probable consequences of such a legal threat in such a subculture was nothing less than incompetence — a grave departure below the standard of care.

The third post on the topic deals with fallout from the lawyer’s media interviews:

The implications of Mr. Carreon’s position are profoundly chilling. Under the rule he seems to suggest, if you write about bad behavior by someone else, even if you don’t urge action, you run the risk that you will be held liable when one of your readers is inspired to hack or threaten or harass. Perversely, this means that the more criminal or unconscionable or horrific the conduct you are describing, the greater legal risk you take by writing about it. That’s not the law, thank God. The very suggestion is un-American and contemptible.

Post #4 deals with the filing of the latest suit:

On Friday, June 15, 2012, attorney Charles Carreon passed from mundane short-term internet notoriety into a sort of legal cartoon-supervillainy.

He transcended typical internet infamy when he filed a federal lawsuit last Friday in the United Sates District Court for the Northern District of California in Oakland. He belonged to the ages the moment he filed that lawsuit not only against Matthew Inman, proprietor of The Oatmeal, but also against IndieGoGo Inc., the company that hosted Inman’s ridiculously effective fundraiser for the National Wildlife Federation and the American Cancer Society.

But that level of censorious litigiousness was not enough for Charles Carreon. He sought something more. And so, on that same Friday, Charles Carreon also sued the National Wildlife Federation and the American Cancer Society, the beneficiaries of Matthew Inman’s fundraiser.

Yes. Charles Carreon, butthurt that someone had leveraged his douchebaggery into almost two hundred thousand dollars of donations to two worthy charities, sued the charities.

Ken, the proprietor of Popehat, was waiting to lay hands on the full filing before taking the gloves off, but the legal opinions in the comment section are pretty hilarious.  I’ve had occasion to exchange e-mail with Ken in the past, so I can tell you in his secret identity, Ken is an LA-based lawyer, former Assistant U.S. Attorney and Harvard Law alum.  His opinion is not one to be taken lightly.  It isn’t clear if he’s working on the defense for The Oatmeal/IndieGoGo/charities, but he’s made a pro bono offer.

So there you have it, a second lawsuit against the crowdfunding site and two charities, as well as The Oatmeal.  And the fireworks are only just beginning.  This one could well get stranger before it’s over.  Of course, I find it particularly odd the lawyer is mad about the bear cartoon, as I was under the impression it was representing the mother of the owner of FunnyJunk, not the mother of the lawyer.  I suppose art is open to interpretation.

At any rate, there will doubtless be full legal analysis of this new suit by tomorrow.  In the meantime, The Oatmeal’s charity drive at Indiegogo is at $183,045 at the time of this writing.

UPDATE:  ArsTechnica reports:

In a lawsuit filed Friday and made publicly available today, Carreon went after Inman, the charities, and the fundraising platform. And he revealed to the San Francisco federal court that he “is a contributor to the Bear Love campaign, and made his contribution with the intent to benefit the purposes of the NWF and the ACS.”

The donation gives Carreon standing as a contributor to make the thrust of his lawsuit about the donations (there are also a few other charges tossed in). Carreon says that Inman is operating as an illicit “commercial fundraiser” and as such should face a hosts of sanctions. (The California statute he references defines such fundraisers as doing their work “for compensation.” Inman would hardly seem to fit the bill)

Comments

  1. Calista Brill says:

    –grabs popcorn–
    –munch munch munch–

  2. Jules says:

    Charles Carreon is mad about the mother x bear cartoon? Of course any sane person would just look at that, roll their eyes and go, “honestly…” before getting back to their work, but Charles Carreon has not demonstrated himself to be of a normal make.

    It started with a drawing of a seriously overweight, gravity-stricken woman seducing a bear and seems to be getting only weirder. This is going to get very, very bizarre before this is all over.

  3. Charles Ranier says:

    brb buying stock in Orville Redenbacher

    this is going to be awesome

  4. @Jules It’s not even supposed to be a drawing of Carreon’s mother. Inman specifically described it as a drawing of the mother of the owner of FunnyJunk.

  5. I’m looking forward to Carreon v. Carreon, when he decides to go after the person who really made him look like a clueless loser bully who sues cancer charities…

  6. This is amazing! Awesome reporting Todd!

  7. Johnny Memeonic says:

    I don’t understand what the Funny Junk lawyer hopes to accomplish by suing those charities. That group seems pretty bizarre.

    At the same time the guy from The Oatmeal is a hypocrite. He posts comics about why torrenting ain’t so bad and then gets mad when people grab his comics without permission? He then proceeds to make an immature comic about somebody’s mother and hide behind legitimate charities. What a hero.

    Is there any way both these parties can lose?

  8. Re:Johnny Mnemonic

    It’s impossible to say this without sounding like a defensive fanboy, but if you actually read his comic on torrenting you’ll see how hard he tried NOT to pirate. He was blaming producers for not making the content available. He wasn’t really advocating piracy, he was explaining it.

  9. Chris r. says:

    The Oatmeal blacked out his information in his blog, however Charles Carreon still insists The Oatmeal gave out his email. However Mr. Carreon has done exactly what he is suing over to someone else:

    http://www.ragingblog.com/2009/05/pornographers-infringe-emily-trademark-and-mattel-is-silent-how-swell-is-that/

    He also claims there is no other way to contact him, however on the above link if you click “contact” you will get his email address.

    More reading:
    http://charles-carreon.com

  10. PAUL D HOUSTON says:

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